If you really want to read this, try using The Internet Archive.
It's at 1 Hour 43 minutes & 12 seconds
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/page/item/b00ccfhm.shtml?filter=txdate%3A29-06&filter=txslot%3Aevening&start=1&scope=iplayerlast7days&version_pid=b00ccff5
