For me, anything that sounds very, very unlike any cock rock / power ballad 'classic' is already getting some kudos.

I realised when I saw an advert for 'I LOVE DAD' or whatever. It makes me feel uneasy. I cannot even look at these bands' videos or anything.

I think its why I love Joy Division so much. It couldn't be more different to all that cheesy, overblown (understatemnt) horrid filth that tends to linger around VH2, Magic, and KeRrAnNgG.

There's nothing better than hearing one of these 'I LOVE GNR, dude' people spitting and complaining at how bad the Fall and JD are.

It plucks my heart strings.